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The Independence by Design Podcast · With Ryan Tansom

What do you want from owning your business?

Hear owners and advisors work through decisions about business value, income and leadership. Consider what applies as you build toward the freedom of time and money, whether you scale, step back or sell.

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Episode 513 · October 01, 2026

Jim Brown | The Imperfect CEO

01:21:21 listening time

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Episode 512 · September 24, 2026

Alan Beaulieu & Kim Clark | Turn Economic Uncertainty Into a Plan

01:10:07 listening time

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Episode 511 · September 17, 2026

Camille Nicita Higley | The Business Is the People

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01

Time, identity & ownership

Decide what you want the business to make possible.

  • #500 In the Hot Seat: Time Is the Only Thing You Don't Get Back
  • #475 Matt Paulson | $50M & 20 Employees; Designing a Business You Never Want to Sell
  • #400 Introduction to Independence by Design™
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02

Valuation & ownership choices

Understand value, buyers and the choices available to you.

  • #407 Where Does the Multiple in Business Valuations Come From (and How to Double It) with Ken Sanginario?
  • #443 Graham & Kyle | How to Value Your Business Without the Bullsh*t
  • #465 Nick Bradley | Pick Your Ownership Game: Designing Value for Third-Party Exits vs. Internal
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03

Cash flow & financial planning

Connect the numbers to your goals and next decision.

  • #507 Pat Hobby | Get Ready for Q4 Budgeting with the Model That Predicts Your Cash (Replay)
  • #498 Ryan & Kim | How to Build a Five-Year Forecast That Shows Your Value Gap
  • #438 What a Great CFO Actually Does (And Why Most Owners Have the Wrong Expectations) with Pat Hobby
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04

Revenue, pricing & margins

Build predictable revenue and understand what it earns.

  • #499 Ryan & Kim | How to Build the Revenue Blueprint That Makes Growth Predictable
  • #487 Casey Brown | The Fear That's Eating Your Margins
  • #505 How to Find the Bottleneck That's Eating Your Margins
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05

Leadership & compensation

Clarify the seats, develop people and align their participation.

  • #508 The 3 Functional Leaders: The CFO, CRO, and COO Who Run the Business Without You
  • #510 The Leadership Development Plan: How to Build the Confidence to Actually Let Go
  • #494 Ryan & Kim | How to Design an Annual Executive Compensation Plan
Explore this collection →Work on your leadership team →
06

Succession, selling & life after

Consider the next role for you and the future of the company.

  • #422 From Operator to Owner: Redefining the CEO Role with Joel Trammell
  • #405 Breaking Founder Dependency: How to Assess, Recruit, and Integrate the Right CEO with Mike Frommelt
  • #482 Matt Curry | He Sold His $18M Auto Repair Empire, Regretted It, and Built It Back Better
Explore this collection →Plan your changing role →
07

Economics & annual planning

Bring the wider economy into practical company decisions.

  • #512 Alan Beaulieu & Kim Clark | Turn Economic Uncertainty Into a Plan
  • #507 Pat Hobby | Get Ready for Q4 Budgeting with the Model That Predicts Your Cash (Replay)
  • #463 The 12-Step Revenue Forecast | Kim Clark | Budget Season 2026, Part 3
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08

AI, systems & company data

Connect technology and reliable information to useful work.

  • #471 Tyler LaFleur | Stop "Playing" With AI
  • #452 Geoff Woods | Author of The AI-Driven Leader
  • #459 Bob Muller | Why Clean Data Is the Foundation for Scaling and Owner Clarity
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Search by guest, episode number or subject. The catalog includes Independence by Design and earlier Intentional Growth and Life After Business conversations.

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  1. #513

    Jim Brown | The Imperfect CEO

    Independence by Design · October 01, 2026

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    Alan Beaulieu & Kim Clark | Turn Economic Uncertainty Into a Plan

    Independence by Design · September 24, 2026

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  3. #511

    Camille Nicita Higley | The Business Is the People

    Independence by Design · September 17, 2026

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  4. #510

    The Leadership Development Plan: How to Build the Confidence to Actually Let Go

    Independence by Design · September 10, 2026

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  5. #509

    The 5-Year Leadership Roadmap: How to Fill the Three Seats You Cannot Afford Yet

    Independence by Design · September 03, 2026

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  6. #508

    The 3 Functional Leaders: The CFO, CRO, and COO Who Run the Business Without You

    Independence by Design · August 27, 2026

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  7. #507

    Pat Hobby | Get Ready for Q4 Budgeting with the Model That Predicts Your Cash (Replay)

    Independence by Design · August 20, 2026

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  8. #506

    David Kachoui | Leadership Is a Trait, Not a Personality

    Independence by Design · August 13, 2026

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  9. #505

    How to Find the Bottleneck That's Eating Your Margins

    Independence by Design · August 06, 2026

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  10. #504

    How to Tell Which Revenue Line Is Actually Making You Money

    Independence by Design · July 30, 2026

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  11. #503

    How to Stop Automating Chaos and Get Revenue Data You Can Trust

    Independence by Design · July 23, 2026

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  12. #502

    How to Map Your User Journey and Stop Lighting Marketing Money on Fire

    Independence by Design · July 16, 2026

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  13. #501

    Gary Kusin | Align in 30 Days or I'll Help You Find Your Next Job

    Independence by Design · July 10, 2026

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  14. #500

    In the Hot Seat: Time Is the Only Thing You Don't Get Back

    Independence by Design · July 02, 2026

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  15. #499

    Ryan & Kim | How to Build the Revenue Blueprint That Makes Growth Predictable

    Independence by Design · June 25, 2026

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  16. #498

    Ryan & Kim | How to Build a Five-Year Forecast That Shows Your Value Gap

    Independence by Design · June 18, 2026

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  17. #497

    Ryan & Kim | How to Build an Annual Budget That Predicts Your Cash

    Independence by Design · June 11, 2026

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  18. #496

    Tom Walker | Where to Put Your Money When the Government Keeps Printing

    Independence by Design · June 04, 2026

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  19. #495

    Ryan & Kim | How to Share Your Company's Upside Without Giving Away Equity

    Independence by Design · May 28, 2026

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  20. #494

    Ryan & Kim | How to Design an Annual Executive Compensation Plan

    Independence by Design · May 21, 2026

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  21. #493

    Ryan & Kim | How to Tie Everyone's Compensation to Your Ownership Goals

    Independence by Design · May 14, 2026

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  22. #492

    Ryan | How to Analyze Your Margins and Gross Profit

    Independence by Design · May 07, 2026

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  23. #491

    Bud Martin | The Lower Middle Market M&A Gap Nobody Talks About

    Independence by Design · April 30, 2026

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  24. #490

    Alex Chausovsky | Supply Chains, Inflation, and Your Profit Battle Plan

    Independence by Design · April 23, 2026

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  25. #489

    Ryan & Kim | The Profit War Room. Inflation Is Coming. Do You Have a Battle Plan?

    Independence by Design · April 16, 2026

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  26. #488

    Dr. Sabrina Starling | $10,000/Hour Work and the 4-Week Vacation Test

    Independence by Design · April 09, 2026

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  27. #487

    Casey Brown | The Fear That's Eating Your Margins

    Independence by Design · April 02, 2026

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  28. #486

    Pete Walker | Your Business Built This Community. What Happens to It When You're Gone?

    Independence by Design · March 26, 2026

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  29. #485

    Steve Moss | You Found the Leader. Now How Do You Make Them Stay?

    Independence by Design · March 19, 2026

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  30. #484

    Meg Gold | Your Best Leaders Are Out There. They Just Can't Find You.

    Independence by Design · March 12, 2026

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  31. #483

    Cyndi Gave | Stop Guessing If Your People Can Think

    Independence by Design · March 05, 2026

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  32. #482

    Matt Curry | He Sold His $18M Auto Repair Empire, Regretted It, and Built It Back Better

    Independence by Design · February 26, 2026

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  33. #481

    Nick Bradley | The Private Equity Operating System

    Independence by Design · February 19, 2026

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  34. #480

    Kim Clark | What a CRO Does to Create Predictable Revenue

    Independence by Design · February 12, 2026

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  35. #479

    John Abrams | When the Business Works but the Owner Doesn’t

    Independence by Design · February 05, 2026

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  36. #478

    Q1 2026 Economic & M&A Update

    Independence by Design · January 29, 2026

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  37. #477

    William “Bill” Cowan | Buying a Business Is Easy. Living With It Is Hard.

    Independence by Design · January 22, 2026

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  38. #476

    Tom Shipley | Why Most Owners Get Stuck at $1–$2M EBITDA (and How to Break Through)

    Independence by Design · January 15, 2026

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  39. #475

    Matt Paulson | $50M & 20 Employees; Designing a Business You Never Want to Sell

    Independence by Design · January 08, 2026

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  40. #474

    Luke Maupin | How to Flip the Power Dynamic with Your Commercial Bank

    Independence by Design · January 01, 2026

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  41. #473

    John Bartlett | What Selling a Business Really Looks Like

    Independence by Design · December 25, 2025

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  42. #472

    Ryan Tansom | The Only Financial Model You Will Ever Need

    Independence by Design · December 18, 2025

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  43. #471

    Tyler LaFleur | Stop "Playing" With AI

    Independence by Design · December 11, 2025

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  44. #470

    Greg Meredith | Strategic Planning vs. Strategy

    Independence by Design · December 04, 2025

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  45. #469

    Alison Bechdol | Your Marketing Isn’t Broken — Your Data Is

    Independence by Design · November 27, 2025

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  46. #468

    Jeff West | Redefining Leadership

    Independence by Design · November 20, 2025

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  47. #467

    Alan Beaulieu & Kim Clark | Navigating the New Economic Reality: Designing Your Business for What’s Coming

    Independence by Design · November 13, 2025

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  48. #466

    Lawrence Lepard | The Fiat Game Is Rigged: Fix the Money Fix the World

    Independence by Design · November 06, 2025

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  49. #465

    Nick Bradley | Pick Your Ownership Game: Designing Value for Third-Party Exits vs. Internal

    Independence by Design · October 30, 2025

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  50. #464

    Cyndi Gave | How to Build a Leadership Team That Thinks Like Owners

    Independence by Design · October 23, 2025

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  51. #463

    The 12-Step Revenue Forecast | Kim Clark | Budget Season 2026, Part 3

    Independence by Design · October 16, 2025

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  52. #462

    From P&L to Cash Flow: The Model Every Owner Needs | Pat Hobby | Budget Season 2026, Part 2

    Independence by Design · October 09, 2025

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  53. #461

    Why Budgets Fail Without Economic Context | Alan Beaulieu & Kim Clark | Budget Season 2026, Part 1

    Independence by Design · October 02, 2025

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  54. #460

    Tom Nagler | An Owner’s Journey: Family Business, Growth, Acquisitions, Sale, and What Came After

    Independence by Design · September 25, 2025

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  55. #459

    Bob Muller | Why Clean Data Is the Foundation for Scaling and Owner Clarity

    Independence by Design · September 18, 2025

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  56. #458

    Brandon Henry | The Business Advice System Is Broken — Here’s the Truth Owners Need

    Independence by Design · September 11, 2025

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  57. #457

    Explaining Bitcoin to an Economist | Ryan Tansom with Alan Beaulieu & Kim Clark

    Independence by Design · September 04, 2025

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  58. #456

    Panel Debate | The Ownership Game (the 2%) vs. Small‑Business Reality (the 98%)

    Independence by Design · August 28, 2025

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  59. #455

    Jim Carlisle | Boardroom Ownership: Protecting Value, Preserving Legacy, and Capital Allocation

    Independence by Design · August 21, 2025

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  60. #454

    Candice Bradley | Designing the Game You Want to Play: Ownership, Capitalism & Real Decision Making

    Independence by Design · August 14, 2025

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  61. #453

    Jennifer Davis | From Chaos to Cash: The Comp Plan That Frees You to Lead

    Independence by Design · August 07, 2025

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  62. #452

    Geoff Woods | Author of The AI-Driven Leader

    Independence by Design · July 31, 2025

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  63. #451

    Paul Spiegelman | The Origin Story of the Small Giants Community

    Independence by Design · July 24, 2025

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  64. #450

    Jean Moncrieff | Letting Go, Leading with Values, and Building a Company That Lasts

    Independence by Design · July 17, 2025

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  65. #449

    Ryan Tansom | Understanding the Meaning of Life, God, and Money

    Independence by Design · July 10, 2025

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  66. #448

    Jennifer Davis | Bootstrapping Davisware to $20M+, Selling to PE, Raising 10 Kids, & Living Exponentially

    Independence by Design · July 03, 2025

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  67. #447

    Jeff Buettner | Q2 2025 M&A Update: What Buyers Want, What’s Holding Deals Back, and How Founders Can Prepare

    Independence by Design · June 26, 2025

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  68. #446

    Joe Brown | What Every Owner Should Know About Inflation, Debt, and the Real Economy

    Independence by Design · June 19, 2025

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  69. #445

    Mark Cleveland | You Don’t Have to Sell or Scale—There’s a Third Option

    Independence by Design · June 12, 2025

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  70. #444

    Clint Fiore | Understanding Main Street Valuations (Through the Buyer’s Lens)

    Independence by Design · June 05, 2025

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  71. #443

    Graham & Kyle | How to Value Your Business Without the Bullsh*t

    Independence by Design · May 29, 2025

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  72. #442

    Alex McClafferty | What Happens When You Can't Outwork the Truth Anymore

    Independence by Design · May 22, 2025

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  73. #441

    John Rood | What Happens After You Sell the Business?

    Independence by Design · May 15, 2025

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  74. #440

    Cash, Risk, and the Real Reason Most Deals Fall Apart with Elliott Holland

    Independence by Design · May 08, 2025

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  75. #439

    How to Build a Marketing Engine That Ties to Sales, Value, and Cash Flow with Kim Clark

    Independence by Design · May 01, 2025

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  76. #438

    What a Great CFO Actually Does (And Why Most Owners Have the Wrong Expectations) with Pat Hobby

    Independence by Design · April 24, 2025

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  77. #437

    He Did What Most Business Owners Only Dream About—Rob Dube’s Story

    Independence by Design · April 17, 2025

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  78. #436

    Integrating Strategy, Execution, and Financial Clarity with Shannon Susko

    Independence by Design · April 10, 2025

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  79. #435

    The New SBA Playbook for Acquisitions with John Thwing

    Independence by Design · April 03, 2025

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  80. #434

    Q1 Economic & M&A Update with ITR Economics, ButcherJosheph, & Joe Brown

    Independence by Design · March 27, 2025

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  81. #433

    Designing Your Future Org Chart: How to Build a Scalable, Owner-Independent Business with Mike Frommelt and Rick Rittmaster

    Independence by Design · March 20, 2025

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  82. #432

    Why More Growth Won’t Set You Free (And What Will) with Nick Bradley

    Independence by Design · March 13, 2025

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  83. #431

    Turning Crisis into a Scalable ESOP with Heather Braimbridge-Cox and Bill Mills

    Independence by Design · March 06, 2025

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  84. #430

    Cash vs. Valuation: Why Entrepreneurs Get Trapped in the Wrong Financial Metrics with Patrick Donohue

    Independence by Design · February 27, 2025

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  85. #429

    How to Engineer Business Value: Scaling Smart, Hiring Right, and Creating Freedom with Rens Hayes

    Independence by Design · February 20, 2025

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  86. #428

    Cutting Through the Noise: Why Free Cash Flow Is the Only Metric That Matters with Ken Sanginario

    Independence by Design · February 13, 2025

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  87. #427

    Navigating Deal Structures: The Hidden Factors That Impact Your Net Proceeds with Dave Diehl

    Independence by Design · February 06, 2025

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  88. #426

    Understanding Buyers: How Ownership Structures Shape M&A Goals with Jeff Buettner

    Independence by Design · January 30, 2025

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  89. #425

    Unlocking Business Value: Practical Tools for Growth and Ownership Goals with Ken Sanginario & John Lawlor

    Independence by Design · January 23, 2025

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  90. #424

    Scaling for Sanity: Jimmy Fritz on Balancing Growth, Cash Flow, and Life

    Independence by Design · January 16, 2025

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  91. #423

    From Financial Confusion to Clarity: Unlocking the 14 Ownership KPIs with Tracy Bech

    Independence by Design · January 09, 2025

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  92. #422

    From Operator to Owner: Redefining the CEO Role with Joel Trammell

    Independence by Design · January 02, 2025

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  93. #421

    Mike Michalowicz: Go All In: Unleash the Power of Ownership & Build Unstoppable Teams

    Independence by Design · December 26, 2024

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  94. #420

    Closing the Execution Gap: Systematize Your Culture & Step Back with Confidence with Bill Mills

    Independence by Design · December 19, 2024

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  95. #419

    From Hustle to Freedom: How to Build a Business That Runs Without You with Jean Moncrieff

    Independence by Design · December 12, 2024

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  96. #418

    Walker Deibel: Buy Then Build, Acquisition Entrepreneurship, and Unlocking Wealth in the Middle Market

    Independence by Design · December 05, 2024

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  97. #417

    Mastering Profitability in a Professional Services Firm with Marcel Petitpas

    Independence by Design · November 28, 2024

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  98. #416

    Behind the Curtain: How Ultra-Wealthy Families Manage Their Business Assets with Brandon Henry

    Independence by Design · November 21, 2024

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  99. #415

    Everyone Gets Punched in the Face: A Framework for Planning with Tom Walker

    Independence by Design · November 14, 2024

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  100. #414

    How to Navigate a Third-Party Sale with an Investment Banker with Adam Webb

    Independence by Design · November 07, 2024

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  101. #413

    From GameStop to Kinko's: Gary Kusin on Building, Scaling, and Creating Legacy Businesses

    Independence by Design · October 31, 2024

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  102. #412

    Revenue Predictability & Strategic Marketing Tied to Valuation Growth with Shiv Narayanan

    Independence by Design · October 24, 2024

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  103. #411

    Mastering the Art of Pricing: How to Charge What You’re Worth with Casey Brown

    Independence by Design · October 17, 2024

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  104. #410

    Q3 2024 Economic and M&A Update with ITR Economics, ButcherJoseph, and Walker Insights

    Independence by Design · October 10, 2024

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  105. #409

    Where is the Money? From Services to E-Commerce: Tracy Bech’s Playbook for Understanding Cash Flow

    Independence by Design · October 03, 2024

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  106. #408

    Escaping the Daily Grind: How Matt Bodnar Moved from Operator to a Capital Allocator with a Portfolio of Businesses

    Independence by Design · September 26, 2024

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  107. #407

    Where Does the Multiple in Business Valuations Come From (and How to Double It) with Ken Sanginario?

    Independence by Design · September 19, 2024

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  108. #406

    The Art and Science of Business Valuations: Insights from Over 1,500 Valuations with Brandon Hall

    Independence by Design · September 11, 2024

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  109. #405

    Breaking Founder Dependency: How to Assess, Recruit, and Integrate the Right CEO with Mike Frommelt

    Independence by Design · September 05, 2024

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  110. #404

    Design a CEO Compensation Plan Tied to Your Cash Flow & Equity Valuation Goals with Craig Rutledge

    Independence by Design · August 29, 2024

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  111. #403

    Cash Flow Broke and Balance Sheet Rich with Eric Roman

    Independence by Design · August 29, 2024

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  112. #402

    Tax Mitigation Strategies: Keeping More of What You Earn with Roger Roundy

    Independence by Design · August 29, 2024

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  113. #401

    Discovering the Truth About Economics & Money: Joe Brown on Inflation, Investments, and Independence

    Independence by Design · August 29, 2024

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  114. #400

    Introduction to Independence by Design™

    Independence by Design · August 29, 2024

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  115. #394

    First Half of 2024 Economic and M&A Update with ITR Economic and ButcherJoseph

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  116. #393

    Profit First - The Entrepreneur's Guide to Financial Freedom with Chris White and Jason Petro

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  117. #392

    The Ultimate Guide on Business Banking with Jeff Campbell: A Deep Dive into Navigating Financial Waters

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  118. #391

    How Private Equity Think About Value Creation: Winning Moves with Dan Cremons

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  119. #390

    The ESOP Holding Company Model: Pioneering Change in a 130‒Year‒Old Company with Daniel Goldstein

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  120. #389

    He Was Told His Ideas Would Never Work: The Least Likely Millionaire with Jonathan Beskin

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  121. #388

    The Contractor Fight with Tom Reber: Helping People in the Trades Enjoy Work & Build a Business that Serves Them

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  122. #387

    Finding Hidden Market Opportunities using Hypernomics with Doug Howarth

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  123. #386

    Co‒Founder of MapQuest Chris Heivly on Why Building a Company is like Building a Fort

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  124. #385

    From Corporate Life to E‒Commerce Mastery: Robb Green's Journey of Building 17 Brands

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  125. #384

    Decision Sprint: The New Way to Innovate into the Unknown & Move from Strategy into Action with Atif Rafiq

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  126. #383

    The Billionaire Mindset - Why Average Equals Death with Richard Wilson the Founder of the Family Office Club

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  127. #382

    Q4 2023 Economic and M&A Update with Brian Beaulieu and Jeff Buettner

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  128. #381

    The Growth Dilemma: How To Fund Your Target Equity Valuation So It Aligns with Your Goals with Ami Kassar

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  129. #380

    2024 Planning: Leveraging EOS, Strategic Planning, Budgeting & Forecasting to Hit Your Target Equity Valuation [Part 2]

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  130. #379

    2024 Planning: Leveraging EOS, Strategic Planning, Budgeting & Forecasting to Hit Your Target Equity Valuation [Part 1]

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  131. #378

    Becoming an Empire Builder: The Road to a Billion with Adam Coffey

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  132. #377

    Why, How, & When to Consider Podcasting to Fuel Your B2B Growth After 1000+ Interviews & 12+ Years with John Corcoran

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  133. #376

    The Dropout Multi‒Millionaire: Brian Will Shares Lessons on How to Succeed in Business With No Money, No Education and No Clue

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  134. #375

    From $1,000 to $30M: The Power of Leveraged Buyouts (LBOs) for Acquisition Entrepreneurs with Bakari Akil

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  135. #374

    The Power of Intentionality in Entrepreneurial Decision Making & Leadership with Eric Rieger

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  136. #373

    The Power of Entanglement: How Companies Can Surpass Employee Engagement and Outperform the Competition with Tom Walter

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  137. #372

    Buying Companies, Growing Value, & Achieving a High Value Exit with Walker Diebel and Nick Bradley

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    Deciding to Sell and What Comes Next Mark Raderstorf

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    How to Minimize Taxes When Selling a Business Todd Ganos

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  503. #6

    Selling a Family Business with Chris Goebel

    Earlier conversations

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  504. #5

    Selling a Business to Your Employees - Andre Schnabl

    Earlier conversations

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  505. #4

    Exiting a Family Business - Kurt Theriault

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  506. #3

    2 Open-Heart Surgeries, 10 Bucket Lists & The 3-Week Retirement with Conrad Braun

    Earlier conversations

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  507. #2

    Don’t Regret Selling Your Company with Kristy Gusick

    Earlier conversations

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  508. #1

    Built to Sell with John Warrillow

    Earlier conversations

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  509. Intro

    Introduction to Life After Business

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Catalog updated October 4, 2026. Earlier conversations retain their original context. Some older recordings are unavailable; their entries remain in the archive.

Why I keep having these conversations

The business is part of your life. Ownership should account for that.

After selling my family's $21 million copier and IT business at 27, I kept asking what we could have understood before the transaction. These conversations explore the choices with people who have lived them. Use them to sharpen your own thinking.

Ryan Tansom
Founder, Independence by Design

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